Monday, May 21, 2018

Bangkok's Soapy Massage vs. Oily Massage - Which is Better?

2018 Short Guide to Bangkok's Special Massage Shops

After spending 3 months back in Bangkok I've noticed there are some changes in regards to Bangkok's notorious happy ending massage shops.

It is clear though that oily massage shops are faring much better. But first, for the newbies sake, lets dive into the differences between the two briefly.

Bangkok Soapy Massage:

These establishments are mainly located in Huay Kwang an area slightly north Soi Cowboy. But very easy to get to via MRT subway train at MRT Huay Kwang Station, just 4 short stops from MRT Sukhumvit Station. There are two types of ladies available for 1 hour service.

The Service:

Once you pick your girl she'll lead you up to a room upstairs. There's a bath tub where she'll start filling with hot water. When the tub is full both of you get in and she'll start washing your bits with soap. And yes, the water gets soapy.

She'll then proceed to get your juices flowing with some foreplay including sliding her well soaped up body against yours. When that's over she'll wash of the soap and then it's off to the bed to finish the deal. Afterwards she'll get you cleaned up again.

  • Sideliner - These are basically freelancers working part time in soapy. Sideliner rates start from 2000THB depending on age and beauty.
  • Models - Not all soapy massage shops have models. Usually the higher end establishments have them like Poseidon and Utopia. Model category girls start from 3000THB for 45 minutes.
  • Fishbowl - They sit behind a glass window (hence fishbowl). These ladies start from 1800THB depending on establishment, plus age and beauty.
  • All the available girls are sitting where you can inspect them easily.
  • Soapy massage parlors do not provide outcall services.
After your final clean up you get dressed up and lead down back to the lobby by your soapy girl. You can give tips if you like but only tip if you like the service and would like to see her again. You're more then welcome to sit around and check out the other ladies and take some names so you know who to look for when you go back.

Bangkok Oily Massage:

Personally I like oily massage shops and prefer them over soapy. These special ending massage establishments are located primarily in the Sukhumvit Road area and you can find a map of these shops here as well as reviews.

So oily massage parlors these days have smartened up and started adding bath tubs to some of their rooms where they'll charge an extra 200THB to 500THB as an option for more fun. For example Angels Massage has added that option for 200THB so you can hop into a bath tub with your chosen girl.

One of the massage rooms at Paradise Massage

The Service:

Once you picked your girl she'll take you to your room. Typically the rooms have a shower stall a bed and maybe some mirrors. Again you get washed off in the shower stall with perhaps a bit of foreplay though not all girls do it. Depends on the girls' attitude. Then on to the bed for a bit of massage and then foreplay and action. You'll get another chance to shower afterwards.

  • The same pricing structure for all the ladies.
  • You can pay for 1 hour, 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours massage.
  • Some oil massage shops now offer soapy services.
  • Special options can be added on for extra such as: Nuru gel massage; 4 hands massage; testicles massage; prostate massage and even S&M. Take a look at https://www.paradisemassagebangkok.com I highly recommend their services.
  • Depending on the oil massage shop some girls are sitting out where you can see them and some have photo books like Angels Massage and Premier 101. I do not recommend relying on photos. Ask to see the ladies up front. Trust me on this one.
  • Outcall services are provided for a few hundred Baht extra
Once you get dressed the massage girl will lead you back downstairs where you're usually offered tea or water. You can also give a tip a the moment but again, only if you enjoyed her service. Otherwise, don't bother tipping.

Many oil massage shops these days provide quick and cheap services like hand jobs and blow jobs for 500THB to 1000THB for 30 minutes too They are strict on time so if you can't get it up or shoot in 30 minutes they'll charge you extra. I'll provide more info on these shops coming up soon.

So those are the differences.

What's the similarities between soapy and oil massage? You're never going to get a really good massage. I know a lot of guys expecting a real Thai massage these days. But 10 years ago yes you could get a decent Thai massage. I even had ladies from soapy clean cut and clean my nails.

But times are different. So if you're coming and expecting a decent massage get used to disappointment. In a way, the massage shops already know you're just there to have sex. Which is their primary service, not massage.


As you can see there's just lots more to pick and choose and do at a oily massage compared to soapy. I know guys that come to Bangkok stay exclusively near oil massage shops just so they can get to one easily from their hotel. And there are many good affordable hotels near oil massage shops you can find here.

Okay so now you know what the differences or similarities are between soapy and oily massage I really think you should check it out.

One thing I noticed is that these types of special massage shops in Bangkok are not as buys as go go bars and beer bars where most foreigners go to get laid.

If you think about it, it's cheaper too. You can get full service for about 2300THB. There's no need to buy drinks for your self or for a lady and no need to pay bar fines.

When you compare the amount of customers at a go go bar in Nana or Soi Cowboy and Patpong to the customers at massage shops you'll notice there are a lot less customers. Why? I have no idea. My guess is most people are scared to go maybe.

I have a Canadian friend who is a veteran in the go go bar scene for over a decade but never once in his life stepped into an oily massage or soapy massage establishment. He just likes watching girls on stage twirling around I suppose but no matter how much I egg him to go for an oily he just won't budge. And I know a lot of guys just like him with the same attitude.

Looking for Day Time Action - Head to an Oily Massage

Most oily massage shops in Bangkok open around noon time. But for day time action it's best to go in between 1pm to 2pm so that more girls are available for you to pick and choose from.

Even though oily massage shops are not as heavily visited as go go bars there are peak still peak business hours. I find that most oily massage shops are busiest from 7pm to 12pm from Fridays to Sunday.

I typically go around Wednesdays or Thursdays about 3pm. Or if I have a favorite oil massage girl I just make a phone call ahead and set up an appointment.

Saturday, May 19, 2018

The Games the Same but the Rules are a Little Different...

Back in Bangkok (For Now)

For the past 3 months I've been back in Bangkok after a year long spent entirely in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, working on a new business venture.

I've updated my tips on Kuala Lumpur nightlife particularly on the spa and sauna scene here. Let's just say KL's nightlife is contracting a lot due to Malaysia's tougher stance on prostitution. But the oldest profession is alive and kicking. It's just smaller than it used to be. But still a shit load of fun. I'll be putting more of my thoughts on on KL's nightlife soon.

Because this post is going to be about Bangkok. As I mentioned I've been back for 3 months and things have changed in terms of ways you can find Thai girls for companionship. And I've been making up for lost time.

The Cost of Playing...

Prices are slightly higher for bar fines at most of the popular go go bars in Patpong, Soi Cowboy and Nana Entertainment Plaza. The minimum these days is 600THB at the lower end gogo bars to 700THB to 800THB up the spectrum to high end go go bars with coyote dancers topping it out at 1200THB to 1500THB bar fine.

For example at one of my favorite go go bar Shark Bar (one of my Top 5 Go Go Bars in Bangkok list) in Soi Cowboy I paid 1500THB for a coyote girl. Regular gogo girls prices are 600THB.

Was she worth the 1500THB plus the 2500THB short time price? Yes, at the time. Even when I was shit faced drunk. What can I say she was smoking hot! She had a hot round ass and a perky set.

I don't know what the Thai girls are eating these days but whatever it is it's filling out their bodies in all the right places.

Short time and long time prices are about the same though certain go go bars have gone up slightly. Go go bars in Bangkok charge about 2000THB for short time though this price point is not firm. A friend of mine talked it down to 1500THB cause he knows he can get it at that price.

I don't know how he does it but it's probably because he's a real familiar face and no matter how much he bitches they cave in.

I don't recommend any newbies being as aggressive as my ass wipe friend but the matter of the fact is, prices have gone up. It's the universal law applied on just about anything especially on prostitutes.


Still, the great thing about messing around in Bangkok is that for all the cheap bastards (you all know who you are) you can still save a lot of money on one of the costliest travel expense which is for hotel rooms.

I own my own place in Bangkok but when my friends come over they get themselves a hotel room near Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza. Cause there's no f***ing way I'm going to let any of my friends get it on with a Thai hooker in one of my spare bedrooms.

Anyways they've stayed in a lot of hotels along Sukhumvit Soi 4 usually spend about $50USD a night. There are cheaper hotels and guest houses further down Suk Soi 4 but it's a lot further down.

But best to stay close to Nana Entertainment Plaza so you're up in all the action with plenty of Thai freelancers to pick and choose from.

And by the way, here's a big tip from Uncle Jim; Did you know Thai street hookers' prices are more flexible if you stay at a hotel very near where you picked them up?

Really, cause once their time is up with you they can easily make it back to their location to pick up more customers.

Thai street hookers are notoriously lazy especially when it comes to short time. And they do prefer short time customers rather then long time customers as they can make more cash doing multiple short timers. 

They don't want to go too far. If you ask to short time them but your hotel is further away they most likely won't budget on their asking rate which is about 1500THB to 2000THB for 1 hour.

And because my friends are close to the corners Thai prostitutes work on they even ask them for 2 shots and the girls usually agree. Either that or the girls just agree doubting that my friends can even shoot twice in a hour.

Even for me since I live near On Nut every time I hang out with my friends I always book a hotel near Sukhumvit Soi 4. This way there's no need to travel back to my place.

We Now Have the Technology...

Finding Thai hookers just got easier. Thai girls, Filipino girls, ladyboys and more are just a click of a website away. I'm talking about bangkok.cracker.com which is basically a sex directory connecting prostitutes with punters and vice versa. Like Craigslist you can buy other useless crap but primarily its where prostitutes advertise their services.

Escort services are also listed on there as well but many listings are done by full/part time Thai freelancers. But sometimes you'll find Thai girls there just doing some part time hooking. By the way if you're from the USA you'll need to get a VPN or else you won't be able to view bangkok.cracker.com because their websites are banned in your country.

Another way to find Thai hookers, massage girls and ladyboys is on WeChat. I wrote a bit about this on my website here. WeChat is useful for finding what you need at the comforts of your hotel room.

I have to admit, I've been finding a lot of good quality company on bangkok.cracker.com and WeChat app. It's so easy and I don't have to pay bar fines. I also find that prostitutes on both platforms are easy to talk to regarding rates. You can bargain the rates as well as ask for extra shots.

The truth is, a lot of Thai prostitutes have caught on to using apps like WeChat and even Tinder to find customers. After speaking to a few bar owners they tell me it's a little harder to find quality working girls because many of them have become tech savvy. In a way they are empowered to work on their own and pocket 100% profit.

Speaking of (the Good and the Bad) Thai Girls...

So I'm going to put it out there (again) that not all Thai women are prostitutes. Not all Thai University girls are in the pay for play scene. Because there are guys that just don't get it. I've seen it first hand at hotels, on train stations and even in Thai airports where foreigners try to pick up random Thai women they find attractive out of the blue like some kind of playground.

Yes, there are a certain segment of Thai women looking to hook up with foreigners, that is true and I do not doubt that. I've seen plenty of videos on youtube where guys flaunt their "game" or "skill" on picking up Thai women. They'll show the ones where they get a phone number. Though not all will show you their failures on video. Perhaps this is one of the reasons why foreign men coming to Thailand and have this idea in their skulls.

You will see Thai dating websites where they advertise University age girls that will polish your knob on the first date. It's just a ploy from Thai dating services to get degenerates with pocket money to sign up for their services.

There are plenty of bad girls to pick up at the red light districts. Without a doubt there are a lot of Thai gold diggers which are easy to find.

But I know there are guys with some serious Asian fetish and want to pick up the "good Thai girls" for a girlfriend experience

It is possible in certain situtations. Seriously if you've got your sights on a hot young Thai girl, that is obviously not a prostitute and you're twice her age there's a big chance she's going to run the other direction when she sees you coming to her with a boner.

But if you're close to her age in good health and shape then you've got a better chance then a dude twice her age and out of shape.


Yes I'm back for now and I'll post up some more information about the red light districts of Bangkok when I get the chance. There are some changes here and there that I have to sort through and update, which I did on my main website bangkokredeye.com but for this blog it's due time for some house cleaning as well.

Tuesday, May 15, 2018

5 Best Guest Friendly Bangkok Hotels Under $50USD (Sukhumvit Soi 4)

Saving Money on Hotels and Spending it on Thai Hookers

I don't know what it is but it seems like the prices for hotels in Bangkok, particularly the ones over on Sukhumvit Soi 4 never seem to go up in prices. After all these years writing about hotels in Bangkok with hookers I'm still amazed how cheap the prices have remained.

And many of the hotels have been renovated. You'd think the prices would go up afterwards. Yet the prices remained the same practically years ago. Some hotels are even cheaper before.

Sukhumvit Soi 4, or simply Soi Nana, is strictly one of the best areas to stay in Bangkok, especially if  this is going to be your first foray into the red light districts.

You want to be in the thick of it all. Thai hookers, go go bars, ladyboys, places to eat, drink and pick up more Thai hookers and repeat the next day. That's what you'll get if you're in Sukhumvit Soi 4.

For the newbies don't worry. It's not the wild wild west. There's still some civility. No ones humping on the streets. Matter of fact many foreign female tourists stay in Sukhumvit Soi 4 as well because the areas quite safe. Though just keep your wits together of course.

Part of the reason why you want to stay at a guest friendly hotels on Sukhumvit Soi 4 is because eventually you're going to pick up a Thai hooker off the streets, which there are many, or you'll bar fine one out of Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP).

Whatever floats your boat you'll want to take them back to your hotel to do your thing. Don't waste your money on short time rooms inside (NEP). Pick a hotel on Sukhumvit Soi 4 instead like the hotels I recommend below for under $50USD.

5 Best Guest Friendly Bangkok Hotels for Around $50USD (Sukhumvit Soi 4)

Dawin Superior Room
1. Dawin Bangkok - 3 Star Hotel 

I've been recommending my friends to Dawin Hotel for ages. And since then many of my friends still return there for there annual foray into Bangkok's red light districts.

I'm amazed at how low their hotel rates have gone down. I remember before years ago a room at the Dawin cost $75USD, even for low season.

2. Majestic Suites Bangkok - 2 Star Hotel
Majestic Suites Superior Room

Located around the corner from Nana Entertainment Plaza, Majestic Suites is also a long standing favorite for frequent visitors to Bangkok's red light districts.

Prices for rooms in Majestic have remained low matter of fact about the same from 5 years ago.

But because it's such a popular hotel in an amazing location, it's not hard to see why many choose to stay at this hotel.

Heaven @4 Hotel Sukhumvit
3. Heaven @4 Hotel - 2 Star

Looking for a hotel in Bangkok with hookers in the lobby? Heaven @4 might be the right hotel for you and certainly one of the best hotels in Sukhumvit Soi 4 for under $50USD. Okay, so maybe the hookers working downstairs may not be the easiest on the eyes.

However Heaven @4 has a very good reputation for service and well maintained rooms. Located just minutes away from NEP with lots of Thai hookers outside at night.

Petals Inn
4. Petals Inn - 2 Star Hotel

Another hotels close to NEP as well as the Nana Hotel's parking lot where scores of Thai hookers ply their trade. Petals Inn is a clean hotel with decent sized superior rooms.

Petals Inn is a bit closer to the main drag of Sukhumvit road so it's a lot busier in the area during night. There are many smaller bars and pubs, with Thai ladies of course to keep you company.

5. Ibis Bangkok Sukhumvit 4 - 3 Star Hotel
Ibis Sukhumvit Soi 4

This Ibis hotel branch is a very nice hotel. Problem is it's a big hotel. I know you might rather stay at a place where there's not a lot of hotel guests hanging around in the lobby while you bring in a couple of Thai honey pots wrapped around your arms.

But even then, I'm putting Ibis here on this list of top 5 hotels under $50USD simply because it's a very good value due to location and quality.

There you have go, 5 of the best guest friendly hotels on Sukhumvit Soi 4 under $50USD. Now go have fun!

Saturday, October 29, 2016

An Update on Your Upcoming Visit to Bangkok and Pattaya

A Quick Rundown

Although I'm still in Malaysia my friends living in Bangkok and Pattaya have kept me updated on what's been happening since the passing of Thailand's beloved King.

From the onset it seemed the government was initiating a complete and utter shut down of entertainment venues indefinitely.

As of now the government has deemed that type of policy would utterly destroy tourism. And it would. Even though the country's red light districts doesn't account as a large percentage according to official figures. But to me it would make a noticeable dent.

Go Go Bars Are Open (Sort of)

Go Go bars in Bangkok and Pattaya are operating but not as usual. You'll notice things will be slightly quieter or muffled. Loud thumping music is which a prerequisite for bars have lowered their decibels out of respect.

Though in Pattaya go go bars were closing earlier, around 1am. Not sure how long that will go on but not long is my guess.

But it's business as usual.

Oil and Soapy Massage

These joints have not been affected at all. Since no loud music is played inside and the doors are already closed.

Beer Bars and Street Hookers

Ladies have to eat. You'll still find freelancers on the streets as well as in beer bars. Don't be alarmed. They'll be dressed either in black or white or both. It's just out of respect again.

Probably a good idea for you to pack a few black or white shirts as well for your trip.

Saturday, October 15, 2016

An Update on Visiting Thailand...

I wrote a post yesterday about what to expect if you're coming to Thailand's red light districts in the near future.

Now I can't predict what will happen of course but so far Thailand Tourists Authority put this info out http://www.tatnews.org/recommendations-regarding-mourning-period-for-his-majesty-king-bhumibol-adulyadej/ to clarify a couple of things.

From tat news.org website
According to the 3rd bullet point, it's entirely up to bar and nightclub owners for how long they want to close. This is as official as it gets. There has been no mandatory days of closing set by the government as reported earlier.

I'm assuming all go go bars will close for just a short period of time. A closed bar is a bar that bleeds money. How many days is anyones guess but I would assume it wouldn't be too long.

And don't expect music in bars to go full blast either anytime soon. I can just imagine that the sounds of go go bar girls' high heels scraping along the stage will be a lot louder than the DJs music.

So far the outlook for Thailand's nightlife industry is not as bleak as it could be. Hell even the Thai stock markets has jumped due to the smooth transition. In another words, no shit has hit the fan.

Friday, October 14, 2016

What to Expect in Thailand the Coming Months...

Info for Travelers Too Late to Cancel Their Trips to Thailand's Red Light Districts...

Traditionally the month of October kicks off the high season for visitors heading to Bangkok or Pattaya for the red light districts.

But after the recent death of the King of Thailand the country is in a state of mourning. How long will the country mourn for now is hard to say. King Bhumibol Adulyadej is much beloved and revered in the country so it's safe to say it could be a long while.

I Can't Cancel My Trip, What Can I Do?

Even though your choices for finding Thai working girls has been reduced, anyone can still find what they're looking for here in Bangkok or Pattaya.

In general, any establishment playing loud music will have to shut down. Because loud music is equated with celebration. So without a question go go bars will remain closed. Until when I'm not sure.

Which is very bad news for Nana, Patpong, Soi Cowboy in Bangkok and Walking Street out in Pattaya. I've never been a big fan of overpriced go go bars anyways. But they certainly are a great place to hang out with a group of friends and enjoy going in once in awhile.

Oil Massage Shops and Soapies Are Still Your Best Options

Because oil massage shops and soapies do not play loud music and not really a "celebratory" type of business they will remain open. However, some of those businesses may close for a few days or up to a week as a show of respect.

And I've been saying this for a long time, oil massage shops in Bangkok is the best place to find good looking girls and the price is cheaper than go go bars. And there are many nice affordable hotels near the oil massage shops.

Freelance Thai Hookers in Beer Bars, Discos and Clubs

Beer bars can most likely remain open as alcohol can still be sold. Beer bars such as the ones found around Nana Soi 4 and Soi 7 Beer Garden can be open for business. They just can not play loud music.

Thermae sell alcohol and yes they do have music. But much like beer bars they don't have to turn it on. Freelance Thai hookers in Thermae will most likely be dressed in black or white as a show of respect though. But you can still pick them up.

After hour discos and clubs however is a total different story. These types of venues depend on  music in ear splitting decibels to draw in customers and street hookers.

I never really promoted escort services either because I don't find much use for them. However, due to the recent situation, I'm guessing a lot of go go girls that are temporarily unemployed may look for work at an escort service.

But if you don't want to pay crazy escort rate prices I suggest looking at WeChat, Tinder (or Grindr if that's cup of tea).

Bangkok Backpage has been used by a lot of my friends looking to save some money on hooking up with Thai girls with a lot of success.

The Bottom Line

Any business catering to sex tourists in Thailand playing loud music and dancing will be closed until further notice.

Sex workers in Thailand have to work and earn money. If they don't they'll starve and get thrown out of their apartments. If you've known a working girl long enough you will find out that they spend money as fast as they can make it.

And there's no way in hell they're going to work at a "normal" job after the taste of fast money.

With all the go go bar girls temporarily unemployed they have to go somewhere to find customers right?

My guess is you're going to find more girls inside beer bars and perhaps on the streets of Sukhumvit. There could be a lot more sex workers outside of Nana Plaza Hotel's parking lot and between Nana Soi 4 down to Sukhumvit Soi 15.

If you're still traveling to Thailand this month or the next you might want to pack some black or white shirts as a show of respect as well.

Friday, October 7, 2016

Back in Bangkok for a Few Days

Because of all the rain that's been going on I had to head back to my house in Bangkok. The neighborhood I live in is prone to flooding like most of the city is.

So far everything is okay. But for the businesses in the red light districts maybe it's not so good. With all the rain ladies working in the industry can't get to work.

Since the majority of working girls live away from Sukhumvit or Patpong where the red light districts are centered, ladies can have a difficult time getting to freelance bars and go go bars.

This doesn't mean go go bars will be empty. Because bar girls get penalized if they don't get their asses to work. So there is motivation for girls to get into their bikinis and shake their asses in front of customers' faces.

Freelance bars are a whole different story. I went over to Thermae on a particularly rainy night around 11pm and the place was not as packed as it could be. Even customers seem to have stayed in their hotel rooms as one of my favorite waiters told me it's been quiet.

We're in October now which is the final leg of the rainy season in Thailand. But this rainy weather seems quite peculiar and stubborn so who knows it might even go well into November which is the start of the cool season. It's happened before.

So What's a Guy to Do?

Well I already mentioned many bar girls can't get to their places of work. That doesn't mean there's a shortage of ladies to bar fine and take back to your hotel room. But there is no doubt many establishments are quieter. But you didn't fly halfway around the world for nothing right? And you don't want to stay inside your hotel room and jerk off all by your lonesome self, right?

One alternative is to head to Phrom Phong's oil massage parlors. If you do a search on a blog here I've written extensive posts on oil massage parlors. These joints don't just polish your knob. They do full service.

Pretty much all oil massage shops in Phrom Phong have massage girls living on premise. Though the better looking massage girls live just a little bit further away because they can afford it.

And Phrom Phong has a lot of decent hotels nearby that are very close to the massage shops.